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Had the timing off on the news of Toyota's overhaul of EV plans. The leak was back in October, with a more official announcement in December.
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I’m leaning towards a Troll bot.

 

Figures, it's in the name after all.

 

This is what I mean @Trollbait
They seem to often miss context. Many responses completely miss, or ignore the point.
I’ve also noticed venomous insults, followed a day later by a “like” of the same post.

I believe vvillovv is simply an AI bot here to insult people and lower the value of the forum.

 

No alarm. That's a normal expectation from anyone who has worked on the same developments project for over a decade. Part of the natural life-cycle is to reach a point where refactor isn't enough and you must make a decision to rewrite. To put that succinctly, you hit a point of diminishing returns. Replacement becomes the better option.

Finding the right timing is key. This is why "know your audience" was absolutely vital. Consumers, Dealers, Suppliers, Environmentalists, Politicians... and of course, mother nature... all contributed the decision making process.

In this case, we see Toyota extremely well prepared for fallout, with next-gen Prius Prime leading the way... well aware that other automakers are just jumping out of the airplane hoping for something spectacular instead. Think about what those alarms will sound like as they see the ground approaching. So what if PHEV serve as a parachute. You'll still reach BEV, but in a far more controlled manner.

Technology advances in unpredictable manners. Just because Ultium & 4680 seem to be well thought out doesn't mean that's either will support high-volume sales. Weaker alternatives sometimes exhibit a trait which swings the market in a different direction. LFP chemistry in old-school prismatic packaging could be that contender. In all depends what various market influences emerge as most important.

 

Describes your behavioral problem. The oldest trolling trick on the book.

I challenge you and bate (he knows who I'm referring to and apparently so do you) even if you want to play this game of who are the inhuman trolls here with the agenda, to ignore all my posts, if you can !

 

Hrm... GM is a mess and VW is feeling the burden? Well... sales data shows that:



GM and VW seem to be up near the top in EV volume. Hrm... Toyota is... not in the top 10. Or top 20? Well, at least Toyota is ahead of Tata, right? And definitely ahead of Sokon. Although.. Sokon is up 218% and Toyota is down 12%. They need to hurry up to keep ahead of Sokon.

Sure, it's a slow ramp up as they work out the bugs. I'm sure they don't want the wheels to fall off Ultium (OUCH!). But it's not like they have anything else to sell. Wait... they do? Bolts? Well heck, it's almost like they're phasing out the old and phasing in the new.

 

Well it looks like it won't be for a few years.

Report: Toyota dedicated EV platform may be five years off

Toyota was targeting 85% of its US sales to still have tailpipes by 2030. Somebody forgot to tell California where EVs represented 16% of new car sales.

 

Spot on. Too bad I couldn't multiply my likes. When they start making the same number of hybrids as gassers I'll believe their multi prong approach. Its like they don't believe in their hybrids either, because I see 10 times as many gassers as hybrids on every lot. I might even give them a slight pass because of the pandemic parts issues. Of course now they are digging in.

Toyota Calls On Science To Tell EV-Only Extremists That They’re Wrong

 

Actually they were separate instances. There is a widespread technique in auto sales to limit a desirable feature to vastly more expensive trims loaded with cheap crap.

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